The Perils of Colleen Part IV: Once again, with screaming…
For previous posts in this series, hit the VERY BAD PUBLISHERS link.
Comments from the original message board posts are included below. Apparently, it was not hard to figure out who The Woman was, for though her professional life was short, her life in fandom went on…
Also, additional commentary about remaindered books and the accounting for same.
OK, back to our story.
We didn’t quite hit rock bottom on that misery mine yet.
Now, in an ideal world, IF my book with The Woman had been getting an 8% of cover price royalty, it would still have to have sold over four times the 3,000 copies it actually DID sell to earn out the advance. My original understanding was that my advance would have been ammortized equally over the books in the contract (instead of being lumped against the first one) and, of course, I had no idea that the accounts would be cross-collatoralized over all books in the series and all books on contract I had with the company.
Unfortunately, after deductions for net costs, my meagre advance, and slashing half the royalty for sales at discounts of 50% or greater, and cutting another half for holds against returns, there was no way that a 12,000 advance sale on A Distant Soil would bring in any royalties either.
But things get even worse when you realize that, because The Woman was entitled to a half royalty share on the GN I had illustrated for her, I wouldn’t be getting 4% of cover, I would be getting more like 2% of cover, or about 14 cents per copy sold.
Now, to be fair, The Woman took no advance on the book herself which was generous of her, but then, she sure as hell didn’t need an advance, either. She not only got royalties on several books she edited at the company (even when the creators did not), she also got a salary that made her New York editor counterparts envious. She was permitted to work half days at home writing. She often didn’t come into the office until 1PM. The publisher was subsidizing her writing ambitions by paying salary for her to stay home and write at least a half dozen projects only one of which, to my knowledge, ever saw the light of day – the book I illustrated. (EDIT: To clarify, mine was the only FICTION project she had published there, that I know of. I think she had one or two non-fiction projects.)
So, simply to earn out the entire advance which was paid out over the course of a year and a few months (one year’s advance plus a short extension), the book would have had to sell almost 35,000 copies JUST TO PAY OUT THE ADVANCE of $300 a month and that DID NOT COUNT all the net deductions, 50% held against returns, etc. That was just to earn back what I had been paid even though what I had been paid amounted to the worst page rate I ever received in my entire career.
35,000 copies is good sales by any standard and I didn’t see that happening on this book.
To ALSO earn out enough to pay the colorist and letterer – and to pay the writer their 50% share – for me to even begin to see any more money on the project, it would have to sell between 60,000-70,000 copies.
Moreoever, for the entire time the book was earning out at a loss, ANY AND ALL losses would be deducted from profits on A Distant Soil. In the end, A Distant Soil would be forced to subsidize the book I was illustrating for The Woman.
With 3,000 initial sales and no reorders on The Woman’s book in months, the project was a loss for everyone. I went to the publisher and he agreed to release me from the contract. Any further volumes would obviously lose big bucks and he was glad to be rid of it.
The Woman, however, was absolutely furious with me, and spent many a year after complaining about how I had ruined her dream book, had gotten paid big bucks (!) for poor work, and how heartless I was to kill her project. (You know, if her writing was all that and a bag of chips, she could have found another publisher and artist in all these years, but from that quarter we hear only the sound of chirping crickets. So, draw your own conclusions.)
From my end, despite all this there was one glimmer of hope: a publishing contract is a personal services agreement. There is a limit to what a publisher can expect a person to produce while not getting paid since involuntary servitude is against the law. It would have been possible for me to legally break the agreement if I could prove that there was no way the project could earn income while doing the book.
Fortunately, I never had to go that far and the publisher, anxious to end a bad deal himself, let me off the hook. (There is more than one publisher out there who pays chump change or who simply fails to pay monies due then still expects creators to produce, and I bet you thought slavery was dead in America.)
One of the ways I learned as much as I did about publishing at this company (aside from learning from my own mistakes) was by spending as much time talking to the money people as possible: marketing types, accounting, etc.
For a brief time, I rented a room from my editor (big mistake in so many ways I will not relate them here). The only place I could put my drawing board was on the porch as there was no space in my little room to work. It got cold on that porch, so the publisher offered me space in their half empty bullpen to work. The good news was, I had work space. The bad news was the publisher decided that I should earn my wonderful work space by doing odd jobs at the company. So, they put me to work in the office.
Without pay and without benefits.
I made absolutely certain I spent as much time as possible asking people about their jobs. I was happy to discuss distribution, marketing, sales, etc. These people were very open with information and even let me look at other author’s contracts, sales charts, projections, marketing reports. There was nothing they weren’t willing to tell me.
In the art department, I spent time learning paste up and other basic tasks. Alas, most of what I learned was obsolete already, but I did get to develop some skills.
In short order, the entire office had me working as their unpaid gofer. While I was supposed to be drawing my comics, I had little time to do any of that during the work day because I was photocopying, running to Fedex, cleaning the office, organizing files, doing cleanups in production, proofreading, paste ups, art corrections and coloring on everyone else’s books, all unpaid for and uncredited. I must have worked on a dozen books at that office. I would often stay in the office until 8PM to get my drawing time in on my own book.
I knew I was being taken advantage of, but at the same time I took the opportunity to learn everything I could about publishing and about my publisher, because I also believe in keeping your friends close but your enemies closer.
When things finally went too far (The Woman had a habit of throwing screaming fits at me in the office over a job I was not hired to do for which I was not being paid), I screamed back, told the publisher I was leaving, packed up my belongings and walked out. Months earlier, I had moved out of my editor’s rental and back home. And I was getting work at Marvel and DC Comics again, so I’d be spending my extra time making mainstream comics money instead of doing free art production work for a cheap small publisher with grandiose plans for GN world domination.
The Woman was fired (laid off permanently?) a short time later, and the publisher called me back in to help sort out the mess she had made. Part of the mess was a pile of unpublished and unpaid for art samples that would make your eyes pop. Did you know that Jim Valentino did work on Captain Harlock? No one else does, either. The art was buried in The Woman’s office along with works by Charles Vess, Tim Sale, Mike Grell, and Mike Kaluta. It made for some fun times going through all of that!
Why would I, yet again, go back and do their dirty work for no pay? Because I had a pretty good idea that lots of my missing art would be found there…and it was. I also got to take my galleys, promo sheets, posters and lots of other goodies. I sold a lot of these things later for good prices, so it was worth the trouble to go back and help out. I would not have gotten my stuff otherwise, I am sure. And I was still learning…
One of the best experiences working for that publisher was getting to meet some interesting authors like Harlan Ellison.
Harlan was not very pleased with this publisher himself and did not get along with The Woman. In the acknowledgements page of one of his books, he mentioned that she was “significant” as an editor but does not say how as he chose to be merciful to her in print: she was an ant before his atom bomb and he reserved Fat Man and Little Boy for bigger targets.
However, Harlan Ellison took some time to give me some advice, and that one moment of generosity on his part paid off for me big time. More on that later…
In the three years I worked for this publisher, all my income combined from ads, book advances, miscellaneous illustration, etc, grossed no more for me than about $5,000 per annum, well below the poverty wage. I had no reasonable expectation that I would ever see another dime from my work.
I learned that a major flaw in my publisher’s paradigm was in trying to produce original graphic novels. These GN’s were never successful for them. Only reprints of existing works paid off with the comics covering most of the production costs. Even adaptations of the work of well-known SF authors bombed badly with major names selling GN’s that moved no more than 2,000 copies. Over the next two years, their sales dropped precipitously.
A Distant Soil had been one of their best selling titles, because it had been published before and had a built-in audience in the direct market. Even though the publisher did almost nothing to support the book with advertising or promotion, still the books sold decent numbers (especially by today’s standards), even if I was never going to get any money for them. However, I deduced that if I began publishing my own work in black and white first (as had been done before), and then fulfilling the terms of my contract with the publisher by having them do color reprints of that work, I might be able to make A Distant Soil earn decent income. I’d learned plenty about distribution and publishing when I was working in the office and thought I could do it myself.
The publisher was in bad financial trouble by then. They had been bought out by their printer years before because they could not pay their printing bills. Months before they finally closed up shop on their trade division, I had the publisher sign a release for ALL black and white rights to my work, as well as licensing rights. My publisher freely signed the release in triplicate. He didn’t see any use for those rights himself, it looked like the GN market was dying a slow death for them, and he didn’t see any reason to hold on to rights he didn’t think were worth anything. In fact, the original plan when I went to his company was to publish black and white comics and then color reprints. Shortly after I signed the contract, they declared “We are not a comics publisher. We publish graphic novels!”
Well, then I would be a comics publisher and looked forward to making use of my newly released black and white rights.
However, when they finally announced they were throwing in the GN towel and closing their trade division, the publisher became openly hostile to me. It was quite bizarre. In fact, when I mentioned that I was hoping to publish my book in black and white again, he not only denied ever having signed the rights back to me, he berated me for being a no-talent and told me to get out of publishing. I had never heard the guy even raise his voice before, so this was just plain weird. I walked out of the office in tears. They told me to come back the next week and pick up a bunch of my stuff in the office files, but not to let the door hit me on the way out.
Weirder still, a week later when I showed up to get my things, he was all smiles again. He loved my work. He loved my book. Why, they had just sold through 5,500 copies of my A Distant Soil graphic novel and were going back to press again! I was a great talent and he did not have any recollection of ever saying otherwise.
What the hell was going on with this bastard?
Well…
Harken back to those halcyon days when I worked in the office and used to chat with all the folks who handled the money and business.
Seems a couple of years before, they had had a little dispute with one of their authors over the term “reprint edition”. They had contacted me to talk about it and had even come to me to ask me for New York publishing people contacts to be their witnesses to define the term “reprint edition” in court. Even though I was an industry pipsqueak, I knew lots of people in the New York comics scene.
Reprint in publishing is a specific term of art. A reprint is a book that is virtually identical to the original edition of a book, intended to be sold and marketed in the same arena.
A reprint edition is a significantly DIFFERENT printing of a book intended to be sold and marketed separately to appeal to new readers in some way. For example, a hardcover edition is a separate edition from a softcover, or a manga/digest sized printing of a comic is a different edition from a standard sized graphic novel.
HOWEVER, your publisher can sometimes sell these reprint edition rights to third parties. For example, if you did a softcover book with one publisher, they can sell the hardcover reprint edition rights to another publisher. Naturally, you, the author will get less money on this deal because your publisher is acting a licensor, not as publisher. This cuts your take on your own book in half (at least), yet again. So, while reprint editions can expand your audience, they can also cut your paycheck. The idea is to sell into that new market well enough to make everyone even more money than before, but it doesn’t always work out that way.
Some publishers routinely sell these rights not to expand the audience for the book, but to publish separate editions of it at low risk to them, maximizing their take on the books while cutting further into the take an author can expect to receive.
In this case, my old publisher had published a digest sized version (what we would know today as manga sized) of one of their earlier tabloid size graphic novels. My publisher had reprint edition rights to the book and this was perfectly legal. (Edit: another factor in the legal argument was whether or not the original publisher had the right to publish reprint editions OR if they only had the right to license reprint edition rights to third parties. The publisher claimed they did, the author claimed they did not. I honestly don’t remember the contract details on that point.)
The author was furious and did not want a digest sized version of their book. They also did not want to remain with this publisher as their contract was not much better than mine (I know, I read it). So, they decided to sue the publisher for contract violation declaring that the reprint edition did not meet reprint edition standards and was competitive with the original edition. (Ironically, many years later this author has a new publisher that has come out with manga/digest sized versions of their comic. They’re touting the wonderfulness of the format, the same format they excoriated years before. Ho Ho.)
So, while I was in my publisher’s office, I learned the definition of reprint edition.
I heard about reprint edition a lot, from my publisher and from all my New York publishing industry friends who were going to testify as expert witnesses as to exactly what reprint edition meant. I had no doubt about what reprint edition meant because I had been hearing nothing but “reprint edition!” for something like two years while the lawsuit dragged on.
So, when I found out that my publisher (the one who had, within a week, gone from telling me to get out of publishing to telling me I was like a daughter to him) had sold my reprint edition rights to A Distant Soil to another publisher, a move that would, yet again, cut my non-existent royalties in HALF, the shit really hit the fan…
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Comments from the original post below:
John H:
Thanks for publishing these trips down memory lane. They are very helpful.
I once had a publisher who shall go nameless brag to me about how he was…hmmmm, how shall I put this, having relations with the booth models he had hired to promote his comic that was mainly a lot of T&A anyways. And this was fairly soon after he had just told me about his wife and family. Didn’t really make me want to work with him.
I guess it can be a scary world out there with some publishers that have the morals of; well actually, no morals.
I am enjoying your tales of what to do and what not to do! Thanks again for publishing it.
Karasu:
Well, considering that (EDIT) The Woman hasn’t even much in the way of fanfic out there, and is still stuck in the same fandom from which she pretty much lifted her characters . . . thief he may be but Dorian would not approve.
Starblaze never appreciated the artist & writers they had. It’s sad to realize Phil Foglio wasn’t making much if anything on the Mythadventures graphics I found on remainder at Borders.
Your posts are illuminating and a testament to your resolve to see your story, both the book and your experiences, told. Thank you for this, and for never quitting.
Colleen:
Anything you find on remainder in any bookstore…well, you can rest assured that the author got nothing or next to nothing on the sale.
Remember that clause I told you about that allows a publisher to cut royalties in half if books are sold over a discount of 50%? There’s another clause called a remainder clause that cuts your royalty even further. Depending on how it is written, the author may get as little as 10% of the take of the remainder, or nothing.
So, if the publisher remainders 10,000 books at 30 cents per book, the author will get 3 cents per book. On 10,000 remaindered books, that’s $300. Some clauses are written so that if the book is sold below cost, the author gets nothing.
Now, if a publisher is remaindering a book, that means the publisher isn’t making much money, either. Not all remaindered books are on the remainder table at big losses, though. Some books are hit novels that sold a million copies and the publisher just has 50,000 to unload quickly. That happens all the time. But not at this publisher!
Phil Foglio did a bit better at Starblaze than I did: consider that his book was a reprint and he did his own coloring (I think). But he also split royalties with an author and his contract wasn’t great, either. So there wasn’t a whole lot of moolah in it for him. He quit the series. (Addendum: he is now publishing web comics of some of his old Starblaze work, so I imagine he is finally getting some dough for it.)
And by the way, I know it seems daffy to remove The Woman’s name from your post and I apologize. Frankly, I don’t want to give her any publicity. Her name’s no secret, but seeing it printed here gives me the creeps. She gets no notice here except as an historical curiosity.
Heh, I am also guilty of having mucho grande love for Dorian, and I’d disagree that the character Page was a total lift, but I see your point.
Addendum: For those not in the know, we are writing about Dorian, a character from a manga called From Eroica with Love. The character in the book I did with The Woman was pretty much a lift of this character, who was pretty much a lift from singer Robert Plant.
There’s nothing wrong with being inspired by real people or someone else’s work. The irony here is that The Woman tried to sue me for a character in A Distant Soil claiming it was stolen from her work. Except, the character was inspired by the manga From Eroica with Love! I even had a brief correspondence with cartoonist Yasuko Aioke, as I was such a big fan of her manga.
That’s right, my editor from an early edition of A Distant Soil began writing and selling fanfic of A Distant Soil, using crossover fanfic from From Eroica with Love, and then contacted me and my attorney to claim my book was ripping off her fanfic of my book and someone else’s book.
If internet fandom had existed back then, this would have been at the top of the wank on FandomWank. It is so insane that years later it still makes my head hurt.
OK, more later.





July 1st, 2009 at 4:59 pm
wow do I remember all this. I remember the “digest” book in question and also remembered laughing my ass off when their “manga” version came out. I once bought a box full of the original “digest” ones for a dollar apiece and made bank reselling them on Ebay.
I also remember having a letter from “the Woman” to the person who was doing the scanlations of Eroica (pre internet), since said scanlator knew I loved ADS and there were more than a few mentions of it in the letter. Which I then forwarded to you. I remember we had some lulz over that one. Hope you found some use for that.
Pre Internet Wank. So old there are no screencaps. You just had to have been there
Ah, the good ol’ bad ol’ days…
July 1st, 2009 at 5:07 pm
oh, and one other thing (said Columbo)
I hate to admit it but I owned almost every GN that company printed, and would gladly buy them again. Many are on my “best thing evar” list, although some have been swiped by unscrupulous friends. Like my Mage books (yet another friendship dissolved by the words “but I did return them to you!”). And my Mythadventures books (same here, different person). And I have no idea what happened to my Thieves World set, either. But I can’t think of a single GN I didn’t own at some point (even the CJ Cherryh one–and I still don’t understand wtf that book was about!)
It will always be to me a tragedy that so much talented work came out of that failmill, that so many people deserved so much better treatment, and that if that publisher had had two brain cells and a conscience to rub together it would have been a win for everyone–publisher, creators, and readers.
July 1st, 2009 at 6:32 pm
OMG, I had almost forgotten about all that. The stuff is all on file in a box in the attic should I ever need it. AMAZING stuff. What times we had! LOL! The Woman left a trail, didn’t she.
The “digest” book thing was HILARIOUS! Oh, the trauma! How could our PRECIOUS BOOK be vandalized by that AWFUL publisher???
And then years later, TRA LA! Look our work is MANGA SIZED! Isn’t it WONDERFUL?
TOO funny.
From one Very Bad Publisher to another. Kind of amusing, in retrospect.
Some of those old GN’s were really nice, but a lot of what they published was utter crap, too. If they had cut the line by half, and hadn’t dicked over the creators, I think they’d be around today.
Failmill: best description ever.
July 9th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Wow, this is fascinating stuff. I believe I still have all the Foglio Starblaze books and at least one of the Mage books, which I bought from a Waldenbooks in Lakewood, New York. In those early days of the graphic novel market I always wondered why the Starblaze stuff didn’t do better, considering the end product tended to be head and shoulders above the flimsy 80-page ‘novels’ DC and Marvel had on the same Walden shelf (mostly the DC Science Fiction Graphic Novel series and multiple copies of God Loves, Man Kills/New Mutants). Eventually I noticed the Starblaze books never moved off that shelf, except for the ones I bought.